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View Poll Results: Overselling - Good - Bad
Good (economic, space & bandwidth is not wasted) 3 25.00%
Bad (a company should give what it promises) 5 41.67%
Not Sure (I think it's good and bad) 4 33.33%
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Old Dec 28, 2005, 3:54 PM   #1
 
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Hey,

With regards to webhosting companies this question is for both clients and business, do you think overselling is right or wrong?

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For myself, I'd have to say i'm stuck between the two. The idea of overselling is the fact that most clients of webhosting business don't even use the space or bandwidth given to them, sometimes less then 10% or so. So why should the hosting business go and get another server just to ensure everyone gets the exact same amount.

On the other hand, it should give that what it promises, and If i were a client I guess i wouldn't be to excixited. Also it kind of gives the feeling that someone else is using the space or bandwidth I paid for....But on the otherhand the business hopefully should ensure that no one is using beyond thier limit..So I'm unsure. ...
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I voted good, but I can't say that is definite for ALL companys. Some oversell way to much, whiel many do it fine. As long as your server operates with no problems, it's fine. Mostly all shared host's customers don't use 10% of their alloted monthly transfer. I know that 90% of my customers didn't when I ran my hosting business.
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I voted good, but I can't say that is definite for ALL companys. Some oversell way to much, whiel many do it fine. As long as your server operates with no problems, it's fine. Mostly all shared host's customers don't use 10% of their alloted monthly transfer. I know that 90% of my customers didn't when I ran my hosting business.


yeah excalty which is why I wasn't too sure, overselling is fine as long as it is justified and done in a manner that is meant to preserve and be economic.

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I think it's just stupid, it increasing the chances of crashing and slows the server. In the end, it's the company that loses.
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I think it's just stupid, it increasing the chances of crashing and slows the server. In the end, it's the company that loses.


Well I see the point, and yes that is also why I'm undecided, but the point is that if the webhosting managers are doing it properly and not overusing system resources this problem won't occur unless they are overselling way way too much
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Wether you're in an overselling enviornement or not, you should never have any resource used up more then 50%. This will keep the server running excellent and just about prevent unstable conditions relating to server overloads. All you really have to worry about it DDOS and out of control processes.
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It depends how the situation is handled. As nullified said, server load should be the main concern, and also i personally think if the company runs into a problem where quality is being sacrificed they should increase their supply to meet the demand and not just continue with what they have
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Overselling becomes a bad thing when its abused and starts to hinder server performance. If you do it carefully based on your experience, make it meaningful with some statistical data then there shouldn't be any problem.
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Overselling becomes a bad thing when its abused and starts to hinder server performance. If you do it carefully based on your experience, make it meaningful with some statistical data then there shouldn't be any problem.


Yeah which is why sometimes I'm ok with the idea given the fact that it conserves resources...
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I think it's just stupid, it increasing the chances of crashing and slows the server. In the end, it's the company that loses.


I completely agree with you, overselling really slow down the servers and chances of crashing also increases and due to this uptime are terrible.
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